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Max Chernov hosts a thoughtful interview in Shanghai with Tony, a celebrity tailor who left India at 16, lived in Hong Kong, and has spent over two decades in China. The conversation navigates whether Indians and Chinese share similarities, and Tony’s workspace reveals the precision and artistry behind high-end tailoring. They compare daily life in Mumbai and Shanghai, and discuss whether Indians are increasingly coming to China for work or travel. Max also shares his best travel hack and notes how Indians’ dependence or independence on China shapes perceptions. The dialogue deepens into cultural contrasts, including how women’s freedom in Shanghai can surprise many Indians, and what it feels like for Tony and Max to navigate their identities as Indians abroad. The talk moves toward how Tony’s career evolved, why Shanghai’s lifestyle is appealing, and what would make leaving Shanghai difficult. A reflective arc closes with Tony’s regrets, his thoughts on aging, and the evolving sense
